Sick bastards! And eventually stopping the tosa. Why not 100%? I live in Ohio. After it got noisy because they wanted to eat each other, I decided to put my dog inside. Akita takes his womb for a few minutes Mauro, what does "Akita takes his womb for a few minutes" mean? If a pitbull can whip a fighting dog 3 times larger than it's self 30% of the time then I'd say the apbt is definitely the toughest gamest fighting dog of all time. There are poor pit bulls just as there are poor thoroughbred horses, poor retrievers that won't fetch the newspaper much less a bird, poor milk cows that won't give much milk and so on. There is not a breed that will beat an American pit bull terrier from game lines, anything else is a cur this is a known fact documented in many,many books..start reading ,I recommend any Richard Stratton book,or DR. Carl Semcic world of fighting dogs..all the matches listed already have been staged and recorded ..American pit bull terrier of game lines wins.. RE:Dogo argentino is the most strongest breed in world.. problem is that people in japan have bad bloodlines take a bloodline who have no pain and good trained dogo .. he will beat every tosa kutta and all breed 1000%%%.. I'd have the vet check anyway, just as a precaution. They are a beautiful breed tho and have a very high tolerance for pain. It tried to escape and the dogo caught it. The tosa dominated the first 20 to 30 minutes, with the pit bull taking over and destroying the tosa. Complete bullshit. Here you will find discussions on topics concerning health, training, events, rescue, breed specific legislation and history. So you should have a good feel fo understanding weight classes. My Kangal can run at 28-35 mph for a little over 4 miles and my Boz can run at 25-30 mph for about 4 miles also. I'm sure most Staffy Bulls could whip a Cocker Spaniel or a Fox Terrier too but so what? You don't want them to tear up a hog or steer or bull just restrain it until you can get some ropes on the animal or get it into a cage or holding pen. Is there anybody in there? I DO NOT support dog fighting to the death!There is ALOT of ignorant people out thereThis is the top 10 fighting dog breeds irregardless of weight class:1. Amen!!! DUH DUH DUH, As far as I know, that puma was de-fanged and declawed. The boz looks like a kangal. I wasn't "bitter" I was just saying, check with your vet. And there are many dog breeds neck to neck if trained properly. STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER -- The smaller, European (British) show counterpart to our Amstaff. I spent 4 years in japan during my service time and they laugh at the thought of apbt fighting. Every breed have good and Bad dogsi think BK alabais kangals and tosas that three dogs and bigger pitsall depends of the training and dog quality which will win!! Cane 5. The Tosa has been faught under no time limit rules in America against the APBT and had different results. Does anyone know anything about a new breed called a "Price Boar Beisser"? You guys should think about your statements. The breed was originally established for protection and guard type work against humans, for the most part. The boz is a lgd and not a fighter, but will fight, win, and threaten to eat the opponent. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zgtvq_kangal-vs-pittbull_animals, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zl2dz_kangal-vs-cane-corso-bully-kutta-presa-cao-co-neo_animals. The dogo simply doesnt have the gameness to beat the apbt, period!!!! Kangal #1, Tosa #2, Cao #3.http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zgtvq_kangal-vs-pittbull_animals. But I would like to think my sweet pup could take down any dog but he is afterall just a little guy in a big world afterallAnyway from reading through thousands of opinions I find I have a headache and the most informed people say American pitbull is best and tosas are secondhere is a good example.http://fightvideo.mmatd.com/viewtopic.php?t=47715&start=112As far as all the my dog is the best people, maybe do some research on dog fighting and ethnocentrism, that is if you can even read anything over your screaming ignorant egosand learn how to differentiate informed people from uninformed, and maybe relax and have a cup of tea?I am sorry this sesspool of hate has gotten to me and you all should be ashamed. It's not the breed of dog,but the fight in the breed. That was my past and I do not condone or would ever participate in dog fighting. My friends that fight pit bulls are scared shitless of him! Most of the Tosa fights were exciting but lots of wrrstling the lighter weight tosas were the Baddest the Yokazuna was the champion but I tell you what 100% My dog would have destroyed all of them. It was weak and had been shot. Bull shit if that kurdish or any other dog was in the weight class of the apbt they will not have a chance with the apbt Becuz the puma is not breed to fight or an thing, If the weight class was the same no dog will go up with the apbt Frfr. Thats the kind of unfair odds the pitbull faces when matched against a kangal! The American Bulldog was from Joe Painter, bloodlines from Sargent Rock, Read, "The World of Fighting Dogs". More fair competition would be a Boerboel x apbt cross = an unbeatable dog. Most likely if you practice this sort of thing you have a slit between your legs! All it takes is early proper socialization.5. I have seen all types of dogs beat all types of dogs. You knuckleheads! I don't think everyone at the local dog park would sit and watch a pit bull get the hide ripped off his hole head before the Tosa got tired enough to slow down. Tosas and Dogos are the only real compeition, but true game stock can't be bought anywhere, none of you have even seen a real Game Dog. 2 baddest fighting dogs on the planet are the Caucasian Ovcharka of russiaand Kangal (Turkish) nothing else has a chance unless it's of a mastiff breed. Not mine personally. And very worthy of repeating! Japanese rules also had a time limit of 1/2 hour and the dogs were judged on a point system all of which was favorable to the big Tosas which could control the match with their size and weight until the time ran out. So theyd know best. These other pits are worth more than your fucking car or house!!! !great business man. Have there been instances of rotties whipping a pit bull out on a street corner or at the dog park? Many dogs have been imported and faught against the Japanese Tosa Inu and the APBT and had very little to no success at all. The answer to this question is no doubt THE MIGHTY AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER!!!! R.I.P. Theres a reason why spain outlawed them and they originated there. I read down about halfway through, and there was no mention of IMHO the toughest, meanest dog on the planet; "Dogo Argentina", and I see mention of an Akitalol as kids our neighbor had Akitas, one came down through the pasture to our property where we Kenneled Dads hunting dogs, Plot hounds, and a couple other breeds including a pair of male Airedales. Also it is not just a specific breed but individual dogs that matter. Dogo's aren't even one of the top 5 fighting dog breeds. Why because they murder pitt's? As far as a Fila goes, they are the best guard dogs, but not fighting dogs, they are silent guard dogs who are not to be messed with. In fort worth,tx a match between a tosa from Japan and an english mastiff from somewhere in Washington state, took place with $10,000 on the line. "I think even an idiot with half a brain would know that weight plays a very important role. )the dog they are fighting. And Kang less are great dogs,but I have even seen them get their asses handed to them by a lesser of a dog (mutt) 45 lbs lighter in weight and no pedigree. We comapre huge 140-170 pound dogs to the little 50-60 pound American Pit Bull Terriers because of all sissy boys there claiming APBT can kill KING KANGAL and all. Like my introduction states, I am a APBT enthusiast and also have grown to admire the Tosa. Dogs are our very true friends and very loving in nature and we should respect the happiness we get from them. WolfdogThis hybrid of a gray wolf and a dog bites with the force of 406 pounds. The tosa is amazing fighter but not as good as breeds comprised of mastiff. The size difference is like a 4 foot tall 90 pound boxer boxing a 7 foot tall 350 pound boxer. Hell there just like pit's, they'll fight to the death.. To those that don't know anything about akita's , go out on the web and see if u can find ANY kind of dog whipping up on them. You shouldn't speak about a breed you've had ZERO experience with. you dumb butts. If you threaten it's herd, then you can see the true nature of the dog.the most truly game dogs, if we are measuring the ability to ignore all reason and just jump in, must be the Jack Russell. They can win against one breed then turn around and get whooped by another of the same breed. I want to know how serious it is. PitBUll x massTif x bull mastiff They were invented by JR CORBIN. Thanks. We welcome you and invite you to join our family. I am not joking. Six-year study finds the most commonly reported dog breeds involved were pit bulls (24 deaths), I do not want to see these dogs suffer and I do not want to see children suffer. they cannot fend off a face on attack by one of these dogs now that is scientific fact. It appears there is a lot of YouTube kids on here parroting comments.. Dr. Carl semencic,world of fighting dogs " the American pit bull terrier is undisputed the most effective fighting dog ..matches have been staged with every other breed of dog and then some, and time and time again the American pit bull terrier will come out on top.. Books by Richard Stratton document the matches of all the so called fighting dogs mentioned in these posts,as a matter of fact they were of no interest of game pit bull owners and we're just novelty matches .. putting a cur in with a game pit bull is a horrible thing to watch.. You people have no clue what your talking about have absolutely no idea..if these breed above or below were such good fitting dogs they would have been used by dog men in pits..the reason why nobody did use them is because they are cursthe bandogge is the onlyonlydog I have ever read documented to actually beat a pit bull and it was because it injured the pit bull before its gameness was a factor..nothing,no tosa nothing..kangals have been documented jumping the wall after few minutes with a fucking puppy of 1 year old game dog..this is all documented material.. Turkish kangal..The best.no tosa no pitbullcame close to this breed Stop smoking crack, it's dogo argentino or nothing. Pound for pound THE MIGHTY AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER absolutely rules! Your command of the English language sucks. Anyway my lab started to get the upper hand and then he wanted to intervene so we each grabbed our own dog to break it up. It's the turkish kangal which i've seen in person destroy tosa's all the time. My Tosa was also full of blood but after cleaning him we found that non was his. Richard my son, a presa might be able to whip a pit sometimes but a pit can whip a presa sometimes even though it's an unfair match since the presa is much larger than the pit. Even if someone posts up and says their dog has had the problem but it was no big deal, doesn't mean it's the same for every (re: your) dog. Diff rules,diff outcomes,no lohic behind these arguments whatsoever. A large dead game Pit Bull along the lines of Gr. Their predecessors were pitbull type dogs. This is like fighting a fighting rooster vs a bald eagle. Two different specimens, and two different jobs. Tibetan MastiffNotice all the top fighting dogs are primarily from the mastiff family Coincidence?The next are from mastiff / bull dog decent:1. It's awesome it's free and it's FOREVER!!! The Kangal when introduced to America was used in Louisiana a few times but was not very good .. We decided to spruce things up and fix some things under the hood. Today that would cause every animal wrights orginasation around the world to be in your face. That is coming from a Japanese publication. I also own two APBT's. They t hink it's cool to encourage aggressive puppies and the next time I'm walking by I see the puppy grabbing and shaking 4 year olds panse leg, or they are letting the child hit and tease the puppy and think it is cute when the puppy goes insane mad and attacks the stick in the child's hand. Shame on me. I honestly think most have never heard of them much less seen them fight, but who hasn't heard of a pit bull? They are also called painted hunting dogs because of the various spots peppered in their coats. the rules dictate the type of dog needed to winunder american game rules the abpt is the best dog in the game. I saw a video where one of those faught a wild wolf and won, Friendyou are terribily wrong.Pro tosa breederlaught..no imported dog can beat a tosa from fight selection in the heavy weight division, until now.In supet light division, Tosa and pit have mix result when pitted against.This whit kajun rules and less than 10 kg in difference.If tosa weight 45 kg, the pit lost his life.Don't belive the hipe:Japan and korea have top pit bloodline inported from mexico and balkans.Take care, you're right I have a couple of Cane Corsos my male weighs in at 156 solid and he went after a pack of coyotes and just destroy them I'm not talking one-on-one talking three to four coyotes at a time there's a lot of breeds out there the capability is phenomenal. Dogos , BK and caos with kangals..if are well trained and good quality are unbeatenthey beat hyienas wolves easiliin 5 mins.. Well you can have a tough dog and like any fight there is luck where dog get upper hand by mistake or luck like 2 humans fighting i am a smaller guy yet destroyed 230 plus guys 911 pits are far from a tough dog only thing they got is a lock jaw THere Down fall really i had buddys pit 60 lbs lock onto my kangal side of neck not only did my dog pile drive the pit but he more or less turned his body 180 and clamped and got a hold of the pits back of neck and chomped down the immediately this was approx 2 mins worth of a fight which my kangal was actually playing there was blood every where buddy thought my dog was hurt said you better check your dog so i did no blood yet 30 mins later pit was dead bled to death internally from my dogs bite into throat many people under estimate KANGALS which are known and used to protect the herd from cheetah, lion , tiger attacks in africa just google kangal and lions , kangals have the strongest bite of all breeds 870+ pounds per sq inch pits are in the 300 as well as kanes dogo etc. He probably got some scratches and has a minor infection that is causing the lymph nodes to swell. Average weight of the pits where 45 lbs and the tosa's were in the 100's (detail are round about, read article in mid 80,s). Puss of bromley (the first english bull terrier to fight in the 1800's)slaughtered all competition in its fights was tough but the nowadays English bull terriers which some are phenomenonaly tough are more disciplined yet more tougher & refined & ive heard of many stories from (reliable sources) that their more than a match against pits & other top fighting dogs, I am a tosa owner. A kangal's bite force far exceeds the the tosa's. I say this because I like all dog breeds and wanted to share my friends experience with others who might appreciate it. Kangal (Turkish dog) force bite 743 poundsAnd the most vicious of all is the kangal with the terrifying dog bite of 743 pounds. Here is the deal. If your breed was so good at fighting why are there only 20 left on the planet. DUH! They also treat their human families as their flock, thus protecting them with fierce loyalty and devotion. The only way to know is to let them fight it out with out human time limits and rules T say that the tosa is the toughest if you stop them is a false sense of reality. became breeds. LMAO HEHEHEHEHEHAHAHA ROF. What's the full name of this Russian dog?I want to learn about it. You saw this and saw that but have no proof of anything! Yes, Caucasian Ovcharka are the shit. Thank you. Also it is not just a specific breed but individual dogs that matter. Shouldn't they win everytime? I've seen a champion Pitbull was Slattered like kitten by an Alangu Mastiff. I had a Tosa Inu from Kochi Japan He got in a fight with the Big muscular Pitbull across the street and Destroyed him. The only dog that matches it is the Caucasian ovcharka. I mean, there are some pretty tough men our there but most of us couldn't stay long with a professional boxer, right? RE:Some dogs I forgot to mention that people above did that are all far superior to apbts: akitas, dogos,bully kutta, presio, cane corso, bull mastiff neopalitan.. All the dogs mentioned in this blog have had their asses handed to them by the apbt! But at the same weight nothing comes close to THE MIGHTY AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, Anybody that knows anything about fighting dogs knows that. They lack the stamina the APBT has. Pound for pound no breed comes close to pits in terms of toughness PERIOD. These dogs take down mountain lions, on their own. An owner of a Neapolitan Mastino thought his dog was good enough to beat a Tosa owned by a man in Japan. And the mastiff was weight in at 231lbs. I'll bet anything I own a Ovcharka or Kangal from a decent lineage will destroy any pit you can find. This breed is large and muscular, usually weighing up to 130 pounds. And the only difference would be there pain thrusthold and the pit bull never quits and doesnt submit where other breeds will.Rottweiler is my number 100% ! While we do not necessarily feel there is any cruelty involved in the "pitting" of one APBT against another of similar size, as that breed enjoys the "excercise" very few individuals of any other breed would find it enjoyable or even tolerble for long and would quickly demostrate their dismay with being involved in the situation. When all the evidence is examined there is simply no breed on earth with the documented, PROVABLE pit history of the APBT, which has been used for at least 150 years in moneyed pit matches from England and Ireland back in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries to today, a time in which the breed has spread literally all over the world. I have a sheltie that fucked up a champion fighter pitbull. Continued from the above, of course the Tosas that I mentioned are the ones from some sorts of specialized blood line in fighting. How bout dem taters?!! Why do you think we have wt classes in boxing, wrestling, judo etc? So, putting one in a ring to fight is not the time to see the best of the dog. None of these breeds has any documented fighting history and have never proven to be any good in the dog pit. If you're worried, you need to have your vet check it out. numbers but can never provide a source just imagination. All these so called fights you people claim to have seen beating up a pit bull is not a tru game dog and wasn't trained. It was amazing! A guy brought an Akita to the pit and nobody knew what the dog was, however after destroyed every pit he faced, with dog owners stopping the fight to save their champion dogs. The fight was haulted to a stop so that no further harm comes to the Mastino. The one and only AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER is the world's toughest fighting dog. And we don't like when a pitbull attacks and kills smaller dogs because of your bad training. By my understanding a Tosa is similar to a mastiff if not a mastiff, a mastiff forum would have been where I would have gone if I had one. Sadly, these dogs are endangered due to poaching and habitat loss.4. New video by My Smart Support: Best 100% Pure Natural Beauty Soap by Chiara.in ! Ones much more powerful than the other irregardless of training. I saw a chmpion APBT fight a female kangal and that was very short lived. I would not have my dog out if I saw the Pit Bull because I would not want to see the confrontation. Its pretty embarrassing that a 50lb dog can defeat one that weighs 120lbs or more! I'd take yours to the vet.better safe than sorry, right. Hey Patdick, only a punkass sissified cowardly little bitch brags about a dog whipping another dog that is one fourth or one fifth it's size. The questionability of dogs as bodyguards or guard dogs. He had the pit bulls mouth inside his mouth I kept Kicking my dog and choking him to let him go he would not let go, this was my neighbors dog The neighbor ran out and sprayed all of us with a Fire Extinguisher and that got my dog to let go. They're might be 1 or 2, but a pit bull is not it.. Hey silly boy, Akita's are much larger than pitbulls. JESUS SAVES!!! I was scared this bigger dog was going to hurt him pretty bad so I tried to pull them apart but they were just going at it too hard and the Akita owner wasn't doing anything (probably cause he wanted to see his dog win). (in order, considering gameness/fighting ability), (This information is offered as an educational, hypothetical, philosophical discussion only and is in no way intended to encourage or promote dog fighting or any illegal activity. Togo is strong but it does not have stemina as tosa and PIT have. My min pin would do work on any pit or game bred animal. The guy above me is 100% correct. LOL I own a Turkish Kangal, and a Turkish Boz Shepherd. This is the first time I have ever posted anything on the internet. They had to put their Pit Down at the Vet I cried and Paid the vet bill 1400 bucks they tried to save their dog the vet did. Highly trained and nutrition packed dogs. you can't pit a 40 kg pitbull against an 80 kg Tosa of Volkodav and expect it to win. They just don't have the "tools" or the "want to.". It beat every breed but got killed by a 60 lb Apbt.and if you think the dogs are used in down trodden areas cause their cheap, bring your digs to Oklahoma in 105 heat and watch your dog die of heat exhaustion in two hrs. This comment has been removed by the author. I'm glad those days are over. (Exceptions to this would be the Japanese Tosa Inu, which has been partially displaced by the APBT even in Japan and the Owtscharka type fighting breeds of Afghanistan/Pakistan and other middle Asian countries. Are you Kidding me? In many country where dog fighting is popular, almost all experts think tosa is the best fighter. OWTSCHARKA-- I guess I should list them although, who has ever seen one? come on.. another tosa vs pit bull thread? Also based on a true story was a champion wolf dog that never lost a fight in 30 fights. I agree. Sure they look like a badass dog when they are fighting an opponent one fourth their size. In fact the pit bull is the only breed EVER consistently used for professionally staged, moneyed pit matches in much of the world. That all being said, dog fighting is disgusting, let the owners get in the ring and bloody each other up. Lol it makes me laugh that people who buy a certain dog breed automatically think it's the toughest dog on earth because they own it. American Bull dog force bite 305 poundsThese stocky, grumpy-looking dogs also have strong for bite force of 305 pounds. No dog breed is as good a fighter or as game as a real pitbull. Hello I read your reply ,and your right there is no better breed for dog fighting using game rules than the apbt,I have seen it all and the only way that the best breed apbt is beat by the best bred dog of any other breex is when the much bigger dog gets lucky enough to hurt the lityle 40 to 50 pound dog fast before the fight realky gets going ,,or they use different rules,like the tosa rules 30 minute fight ,or you ant make a sound ,,,,,sounds like away that they an fund for there dog to when ,,,,,Funny can you imagine being in a boxing ring as a welterweight fighting a heavyweight and the heavy weight beats the crap out of you for 3 or 4 rounds then you as the welterweight beat the crap out of the heavy weight for 7 rounds but in the 12th you growl or make a nouse so they call the heavyweight the winner ,,Or get this ,,,its real funny you weigh 139 pounds and your fighting a guy that weights 270 so the fight starts and the big guy hold you down for 23 minutes but then you take over and the big guy is tring to quit abd you are anout to kill him or knock him out and after 7 mins they say fights over big guy wins as the big guy is running out of the ring cause he dont want to fight anymore,,,,,,,,or here is the real funny one people go and get a heavy weight champion who has traind for years and had alot of fights and ge weights 220 pounds and they go and get an 1q year old kid who weighs 60 pounds and just because your grandpa was a champion boxer they through the big guy in you record it and when you lise to the big guy they post it on the net and say see I told you so ,,.Look.people if there was a better fighting dog best of breed vs vest of breed dont you think everybody would be using that dog not the apbt ,.dont you think.we would be talking about the tosa or ully kutta sing there not that good ,,..think about it the apbt regulsry beats ogs i mean 8 out ten thst outweigh him by anywhere ftom 60 to 150 pounds abd still over omes that ,,.now take thst dogo,tosa,boerboel,kangal a n d nake them way 40 or 50 pounds hell it would not even be a fight aginst an apbt there same size ,.I mean you idiots have to get a dog tgat is 3 to 4 times the size of an apbt to even win 1 or 2 out of 10. 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